The Either/Or of death

Submitted by b psycho on Thu, 2007-09-27 11:56.

So, among the issues next up for the Supreme Court is lethal injections, specifically whether they constitute cruel & unusual punishment. My personal view is that the two concepts can actually be split.

Ok, you can pick your jaw up off the floor now, I'll explain...

Consider the process taken to administer a lethal injection: the person being strapped in, the chemicals involved, the fact that even though this person is being deliberately killed they still do an alcohol swab on the area where the needle is to go in. If you ask me, an inordinate amount of process is being used for such a base purpose, if this scenario is anything, it's unusual.

That said, the alternative to that, within the assumption that the death penalty itself is acceptable, would be inherently to get more barbaric about it -- firing squad, electrocution, drowning, that kind of thing. It'd be a more honest communication of intent, but at the same time it'd remove the veneer of detachment from the act. This way, it'd be "normal" (people aren't usually killed by being administered hospital-quality drugs while strapped to a gurney, complete with witnesses...), but all but the sickest mind would agree it's needlessly malevolent, thus cruel.

Frankly, I find it disgusting that we bicker over how to kill, rather than asking why we do it. You can't argue self-defense when someone is already locked up.

(cross-posted to Psychopolitik

cruel?

#4940 On Fri, 2007 09 28 23:27 nonluddite said,

I don't believe in the death penalty, but come on, lethal injection CRUEL? How about just injecting them some time when they are sleeping instead? Unusual? Injections happen thousands of times every day and some do it themselves--between their toes!

The American Civil Liberties Union—Protecting the Bill of Rights…except for Amendments 2, 9, and 10!--nonluddite

Not quite...

#4941 On Sat, 2007 09 29 22:45 b psycho said,

My point was that in trying so hard to not be cruel that's what makes it unusual. We're trying to be nice about something that inherently can't be pleasant.