At this point I'm just recording any debates on DVR and will go back and watch them only if I pick up something interesting on the blogosphere. Obviously, due to the reaction this one generated, I went back and watched it last night. I'm not going to comment on the first hour or so, that's been done ad nauseam elsewhere.

What perked my antennae was Clinton's proposal of extending a Nato-like security umbrella to the Middle East, Persian Gulf, North African, Near East Asia theatre. What the fuck...Clinton is out-NeoConing John Mccain here. Her claim of immediate withdrawal of troops from iraq within 60 days is laughable in the context of this proposal. To serve as a credible security umbrella enforcing agent in that theatre, you would need to have a viable military presence in the region, military bases and troops, in order project a rapid force determent. Guess where this would be situated? Clinton is either blatantly lying about her Iraqi withdrawal plan(no surprise) or completely talking off the top of her head about this "security umbrella." And if the ABC News moderators had not wasted the first hour of the debate talking about Flag Pins and Jeremiah Wright, they might have had time to substantially engage Clinton on this matter, pointing out the obvious inconsistencies on her part.

There's been talk on Freedom Democrats about the possibility of a paleo defection to the Dems, but it should be pointed out that if Huckabee had won the GOP nomination, there was going to be a very public defection of the Neocons to the Dems if Hillary attained the nomination.