"White Working Class"

Submitted by FreedomDemocrats on Fri, 2008-05-16 14:43.

I have a question about this whole idea of a "white working class" that operates as a generally monolithic block of voters in politics. It used to be that the "white working class" was essentially the same as the large number of white workers in manual or blue collar manufacturing jobs. But manufacturing as a segment of the labor force is on the decline, blame globalization and technological development. Today, your typical low-income white worker is in a bottom of the ladder white collar job or some other segment of the service industry. And the blue collar jobs that remain in America are more likely to be skilled, making them less likely to stack up on the bottom of the income ladder.

So we essentially have two white working classes. One is generally skilled and blue collar. Even if they aren't high-tech, they are skilled artisans who use ingenuity and creativity to fix problems and solve problems. They are just as valid members of the "Creative Class" as someone in computer graphics. But the other segment of the white working class is unskilled and stuck in low-level white collar jobs produced by the rise of a service industry linked to the creative economy.

The differences between these two groups are clear and many. For example, the unskilled white collar workings are directly competing in a global economy to the extent that their jobs can be outsourced or replaced by immigrant labor (legal or illegal). Skilled blue collar workers are more immune to such economic factors.

I think you miss part of the picture

#6390 On Fri, 2008 05 16 19:30 John said,

there's a very, very large group of white-collar skilled to semi-skilled working class:

Teachers, accountants, secretaries, paralegals, pharmacists, x-ray techs, nurses, dental hygienesists, medical assistants, account execs, sales people, auditors, managers, book keepers, auditors, therapists, public defenders, designers and on and on and on and on.

That is very large part of the white working class and working class in general. Some of them may be upper class but not all of them.

If we are going to lower the bar for white working class to exclude or separate all these people and call them upper-middle class or even upper class, then I welcome the shrinking of the "white working class" because it will mean that more people are moving up, not down.

Not Sure . . .

#6394 On Sat, 2008 05 17 19:54 FreedomDemocrats said,

I'm not sure if your list, which includes accountants, pharmacists, etc, would be defiend as "working class" by most political scientists and not "middle class."