Origins of a libertarian "grand strategy"

Submitted by Robot.Economist on Thu, 2006-08-10 10:07.

Start from the beginning:

I've been reflecting on Adam Ricketson's very ambitious and thought provoking post on libertarian foreign policy. I definitely agreed with the intent and content of the piece, but in the end it felt like it was missing something. After reading some of the hip-shot responses to the post on Will to Exist, I realized the problem - Adam was thinking about grand strategy, but talking about foreign policy.

Grand strategy is the general vision of where a nation's leadership thinks about the world, the country and the country's place in the world. It is also statement of where leaders think the world is going and where it should go. Foreign, military and economic policy then flows from this vision to match the countries political and diplomatic realities.

I could pontificate on many subjects involving any number of U.S. policies towards the international community, but that wouldn't make for good debate. Instead, I would like to initiate a discussion on libertarian "grand strategy" and have our readers and bloggers contribute their thoughts.

Before we begin formulating anything, we need to answer these simple questions:

1. What do you think of the international community?
2. What is the U.S.'s role in the international community?
3. What is the future of the international community?
4. Is that a future we would like to live in?
5. If not, should the U.S. help to bring about a different future?

My rough perspective:

1. I think the international community isn't in bad shape. There is lots of cooperation, connections and trade, but war and cold, unfeeling realpolitik is still around. I am concerned about how international institutions that have traditionally promoted peace have been weakened recently - the Doha round collapsed, the NPT is starting to fracture, and the UN is weaker than normal. None of these are irreversable, but they aren't sustainable either.

2. The U.S. current role in the international community is muddled. Under Clinton, the U.S. was a world leader that promoted economic integration, political reform, and strong international institutions. The U.S. under President Bush still pushes integration and reform, but doesn't particularly care for institutions. The U.S. is at the top of the proverbial heap and it is doing all it can to ensure that position.

3. Currently, the future of the international community looks bleak. The Middle East is burning more than usual, trade has become a contentious issue and terrorism perpetrated by Islamic radicals will probably persist. Whereas globalization seemed impregnable one or two years ago, it looks much more tenuous now.

4. I'd rather live in a world with less war, less realpolitik and more globalization, so no. That is not a future I would want to live in.

5. Preventing the decline of globalization is probably a wise investment. The U.S. should always be looking for way to enhance access to new markets, resources and people because it is good for business. We want to build up investor, producer and consumer confidence by minimizing the impact of market distortions, such as war and great power politicking. To that extent, the U.S. should work to bring about a different future for the international community.

Libertarianism, not elitism

I think the one key difference between how libertarian's approach grand strategy and how other's approach it is our subject-orientation. Traditional foreign policy schools (isolationist, neocon, (neo)realist or (neo)liberal) tend to think in terms of what is "good for America." Is it me or isn't that overly nationalistic and elitist? Should a bunch of bureaucrats and political appointees really be deciding foreign policy based upon what they believe is good for each of us?

The essence of a libertarian approach to to grand strategy should think in terms of what is "good for Americans." What is the one thing that libertarians tend to say is good for Joe Everyman? Choice and the more options the better. A libertartian grand strategy should therefore work to maximize the amount of safe possibilities for Americans to make associations and go aborad. Clintonian strategy wanted to open markets for "America," whereas we want to open opportunities for "Americans."

Let me know what you all think.

Thoughts- Part One.

#2194 On Thu, 2006 08 10 12:43 LoganFerree said,

I'm reminded of an old Mother Jones article that I keep turning back to on how to build a "Liberal Foreign Policy." Two good quotes from it are:

"[A] truly liberal foreign policy starts with the idea that the things American liberals want for themselves-liberty and equality ensured by collective action-should be America's goal for the rest of the world as well."

"Multilateral action with other democracies should be at the core of a liberal foreign policy."

At the same time, I really was influenced recently by this post by James Leroy Wilson. Given the goals of individual autonomy, choice, and free markets, how do we go about meeting those goals? If libertarians want freedom for themselves, should they not always want it for others? But James is right in pointing out how MEANS are just as important as the END:

It is natural for believers in individual liberty to be frustrated by backward or prejudiced local laws and practices. They assume that the remedy is in appealing to a higher authority, such as the federal courts. Likewise, advocates of free markets are inclined to support international trade treaties and agreements as a means to lower tariffs. And many are even tempted to use the military to liberate oppressed people around the world.

In each case, we are asked to rely on a power - a government - to do something good. But if we trust government to protect our freedom, we might as well trust it to cure poverty, ignorance, and disease. Government is the problem, not the solution. A higher level of government can not be expected to fix the problem of a lower level of government. When it appears that government is advancing rather than restricting freedom, we can be sure that either a bad precedent has been set, there are ulterior motives, or both.

Federal courts intervene in local conflicts over, say, prayer in schools, but then uphold federal laws that abridge freedom of political speech. "Free trade" agreements lower tariffs in some areas, but never seem to actually simplify international trade. Rather, they are filled with political favors for certain industries over others, which ultimately hurts workers and consumers. Foreign interventions never actually liberate foreign peoples, but they do create huge profits for defense contractors.

If a "liberventionist" can trust the American government to spread freedom and democracy in the Middle East, how can they not also trust the American government to provide universal health care? This is the sort of slippery slope that can very quickly turn someone into an anarchist. In the past, I've turned to my conclusion that the state is unavoidable as a way out of the anarchist slippery slope. We're stuck with government it seems, so we want the best government. And if we distrust government, the best government is the least government . . . yes, no, maybe so?

My Answers

#2195 On Thu, 2006 08 10 13:05 LoganFerree said,

1. What do you think of the international community?

I don't know if I think anything at all about "the international community." I don't see a monolithic "international community," I see all these various components and it's hard for me to make an overall statement. There are all these gears and cogs and some may look broken, but it's hard for me to see if there is even a bigger system that they are coming together to form. I see Europe going in one direction, Russia in another direction, China up, Africa down, etc. etc.

2. What is the U.S.'s role in the international community?

Do we have a role? It seems to be preaching about freedom and democracy, but not for everyone. It seems to be one set of rules for our friends and allies, and another set of rules for our enemies. I really do think that under Bush we've shifted to a foreign policy that has America act like a bully, an empire. I don't know what our actual goals are; it seems we're just after making sure that we dominate.

3. What is the future of the international community?

I see the trajectories of the regions of the world continuing to diverge. Cuba and Venezuela were once two of the most pro-American states in Latin America, and now look at them. All of Latin America is shifting away from us. Europe is becoming more . . . well, European. Russia is trying to go its own way--sinking back into authoritarianism. China is on the rise, and I'm worried about what that means for North Korea, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. I'm worried that we are going to fail badly in the Middle East. And no one seems to want to even think about Africa. I worry that as time goes on, America is going to feel less and less in control and will lash out more and more violently.

4. Is that a future we would like to live in?

Not particularly.

5. If not, should the U.S. help to bring about a different future?

Yes. We an work more on bringing together the Western Hemisphere and mending fences with our neighbors. We can back away from meddling in the affairs of other nations when it doesn't impact our national security. If we draw a close circle around what we consider national security, we have more independence and flexibility in the rest of the world. We would have more freedom to work within a multilateral system.

Basically, the libertarian side is reaching a point where we realize that we shouldn't be the world's police officer. We don't need out troops everywhere. And we can fight terrorism without invading countries like Iraq. The liberal side is working with other countries to help other regions; right now that would primarily be the Middle East and Africa.

Our first goal is peace and stability; which to me comes from disengagement and an end to meddling in the affairs of other nations. Next comes economic growth and prosperity; which to occur needs as much change in the domestic policies of America as in the international realm. Then comes political freedom and liberty. We cannot impose the final through military force. We have to create a global environment that nurtures freedom.

Islamo-Fascism

#2197 On Thu, 2006 08 10 20:54 LoganFerree said,

Guys, we're smart individuals, and if anyone can come up with good responses to the typical "We're in a war to the death with Islamo-Fascists and only Republicans and Joe Lieberman understand that!" it should be us, right?

Some of the rhetoric from the right is just down right absurd. This whole "Eurabia" crap, for example. It's interesting that we started with "the Axis of Evil" with a secular Sunni state, a fanatically Shi'a state, and atheist Communist state, but now we're fighting against "Islamo-Fascism."

So what's the deal? I don't think the Democrats are ever going to have a proper foreign policy until they either 1)- Specifically challenge the conservative's foreign policy view, not just their prescribed policies, or 2)- Accept the conservative foreign policy view, but offer different solutions. Overall, I strongly favor the former option. Shouldn't we all?

After all, I'm not sold that this is a "clash of civilizations" even if I love the book "Clash of Civilizations." I am not yet convinced by anyone that any "clash" that involves the "Islamic Civilization" is a clash with America. Islam against its neighbors in Africa and Asia? Sure. But where's the evidence that the national security of the United States is under threat, except for the fact that we meddle in the Middle East and invite Islamic aggression.

And once we've drawn the circle in a way that exludes any such "clash" as a direct threat to our national security, we've liberated the United States from any sense of fear or danger. Instead, we let our liberal instincts take over. Multilateralism, soft power, and the like are brought in to help deal with regional problems. No need to count down to World War III.

Thoughts?

"islamic fascism" is for dummies

#2199 On Fri, 2006 08 11 07:38 adam ricketson said,

I HATE the term "Islamo-fascist", and now it seems that even Bush is using it. In the past few years, I've noticed that the mouthpieces of the right are incapable of distinguishing between different types of tyranny. They call all forms of tyranny "leninism" or "fascism": anyone with the slightest knowledge of world history knows that Al Qaeda has nothing to do with leninism or fascism, aside from the fact that it tyranical.

Tyranny existed long before Lenin and Mussolinni, and the fact that wingnuts (including the President, apparently) use this term indicates that they have no knowledge of history, and no understanding of tyranny.

We can't trust these people to defend our freedom.

Cold War redux

#2201 On Fri, 2006 08 11 08:00 Robot.Economist said,

"Islamo-Fascism" is just another way to put radical Islamic terrorism in the context of Cold War understandings of an opponent. Islamo-fascists are evil-doers that hate the fact that the peoples of a particular country or countries in the Middle East enjoy certain Western freedoms.

Interestingly enough, if you actually travel back in time 20 years if you replace the word "Islamo-fascist" with "Communist," the "Middle East" with "South America" or "Southeast Asia," and "freedoms" with "capitalism."

Republicans needs to realize that they were wrong during the Cold War and they wrong again about terrorism. "Islamo-fascism" assumes that terrorism from the belief that governments need to be overthrown because Islam and Sharia law are the one true way to govern. They don't realize that only a minority of terrorist groups are really motivated by lofty notions like pan-Arabism or a pan-Islamic state. Most terrorist groups appropriate religious rhetoric as a convenient mechanism that covers for naked grabs at power and autonomy.

Osama bin Laden may talk a good game about establishing a pan-Islamic state, but I bet he would change his tune if he could topple the House of Saud. Terrorism may have something to do with ethnic nationalism, but it has very little to do with ideology.

If I may rephrase your point

#2204 On Fri, 2006 08 11 20:59 adam ricketson said,

I'm not sure I understand that comment. Are you saying that the ultimate driving forces behind the communist movement of yesterday and the islamist movement of today are:

1) A desire for national independence (broad appeal)
2) A desire by an elite to gain control of particular countries.

Is that a fair summary of your statements?

Fairly close

#2205 On Sat, 2006 08 12 19:48 Robot.Economist said,

I'm sorry that post came out particularly dense, I was a little rushed to hammer it out in between tasks. Your assessment is close enough though. During the Cold War, there was no monolithic "communist movement" causing a series of revolutions that would put the world under the USS's helm. Many of the places that served as fronts for U.S.-Soviet confrontation were merely internal power struggles or independence movements with communist-capitalist rhetoric over it them.

Sure, all communist groups shared common ideological beliefs, but generally wasn't the direct fielty to USSR control. This is of course with the exception of many Eastern European nations that where partially occupied by Soviet troops. In cases like Angola, Ethiopia, Vietnam and Cuba, communist revolutionaries were often just one of many groups who sought to overthrow existing political orders. They tended to emerge because they received Moscow's patronage.

"Islamo-fascism" is similar. The members of al Qaeda don't kill people because they "hate our freedoms" or becuase they are simply "thugs." When the mujahadeen in Afghanistan pushed the Soviets out of Afghanistan, militant rifles and RPGs were turned against fellow Afghan as some groups fought to replace the Soviets. OBL's 1998 fatwa may call for war against the U.S., but most of it is a justification for overthrowing the Saudi government.

My point is that even for groups who are motivated by lofty ideological or religious goals, all politics is ultimately local. Pure ideological motivation is for a militant group's expendable members. You'll never catch OBL suiting up an explosive vest because he has to protect the vision and purpose of his revolution.

ideological opposition to the occupiers

#2206 On Sun, 2006 08 13 17:12 adam ricketson said,

I suspect that in nationalist movements, ideologies are developed in opposition to the ideology of the colonialist/imperialist/occupying power. If the foreign power is athiest, then the nationalists emphasize their thiestic ideology; if the foreign power is liberal, then the nationalist emphasize a socialist ideology.

Of course, there are a number of opposing ideologies to chose from, so this doesn't quite explain why the nationalist movement would chose a particular ideology. Perhaps their choice is driven by the ideologies that define the geopolitical struggles of the day -- if the main camps are "capitalist" and "communist", then the nationalist movements may have a tendency to line up with whatever side is opposing the foreigners in their own country. There's the practical reasons cited above (patronage from the opposing power), but I think there could also be a psychological appeal to adopting the ideology of the opposing state.

Gee, I sometimes wish I was a sociologist instead of a biologist.

Even if there is a clash of

#2209 On Sun, 2006 08 13 20:29 mlinksva said,

Even if there is a clash of civilizations or whatever the neocon strategy is braindead, among other reasons this from Will Wilkinson:

I had the idea that maybe the war could do something to undermine Islamic religious authoritarianism, and if it was going to have that effect, that would be a strong reason in its favor. But reflection lead me to see that the depth of the problem is precisely what would make the attempt to swiftly impose liberal democracy an almost certain bloody failure.

I think the important thing is to offer a compelling alternative. I haven't kept up with it but last year I had several posts on just this, last one here.

The keyword is "leadership"

#2198 On Thu, 2006 08 10 21:57 Robot.Economist said,

The problem is Democrats and foreign policy is that they are too afraid to the obvious alternative to the proto-typical Republican approach (you're with us or against us and if you're against us, we will use all of our power to undermine you). The grand strategic notion that I am trying to articulate in a very methodical way (and which Logan has clearly picked up on) is complicated and doesn't fit neatly into the jingoist rhetoric of war and nationalism.

I think the foreign policy approach most libertarians can really agree to can be summed up in one word: leadership. We are a fairly successful liberal democracy with a relatively free market and a diverse economy. We're not perfect and wouldn't presume to be, but at least we know how we want to live. In order to get to that imagined future state, we're going to need to bring most of the world along on that trajectory as well. It is a pretty good vision that should include a place to everyone else in the world, so the trick is to articulate and demonstrate it in such a way that people want to follow.

In a way, the philosophy of the Bush administration shares this perspective. I remember when Condi Rice gave her first speech to Georgetown in 2002 during the rhetoric windup to the invasion of Iraq. When someone ask why she thought the international community would follow the U.S. into Baghdad, she said "leadership breeds followers." That is very true, but the problem is that Bush grossly underestimated how unpopular his foreign policy vision would be around the world. This is because the vision is inherently authoritarian and divise - basically, you're either with us or against us and if you're with us, you do what we say.

When I think about leadership, I think of Mike Mazaar's description from his essay "Acting Like a Leader" (Survival, Winter 2002-2003): A leader leads, but is also willing to follow. A leader articulates a vision, but also let's followers contribute. A leader decides, but is also listens to concensus. Even if a leader's decision is right, he or she still takes the time to convince followers.

The U.S. needs to lead the world with a bold libertarian vision. Democracy isn't perfect and markets aren't always fair or free, but their the best organizational tools we have. More importantly, we can't impose either on a people at the barrel of a gun or under the weight of sanctions. Our advantage is that we can propose some bold political steps that would really shape up the international system that will galvanize followers (in a good way). One of the obvious first steps would be to take an aggressive step towards truely free trade. After that, who knows.

I am interested to hear what you all think of U.S. involvement in peacekeeping.

hatred in the international community

#2200 On Fri, 2006 08 11 07:55 adam ricketson said,

In response to question #1 (What do you think of the international community?)

Not only is their selfishness and "realpolitik" in international relations, but there is also hatred. Hatred serves nobody's interests, not even the interests of the hater. It is irrational, emotional response to various conditions. On a related issue, there is also substantial mistrust. Mistrust can be rational, but it is often misplaced -- either because a person doesn't realize how much things have changed, or because this person fails to identify the source of his troubles.

Two examples:

Race relations in the US: A number of black Americans distrust "the white establishment". I think they're wrong, but I understand the source of their mistrust. The (white) establishment systematically suppressed black Americans until just 40 years ago. Even if the (white) establishment has done a 180 and now accepts blacks, I don't expect blacks to instantly trust the establishment, especially considering the economic inertia inherent to our system.

Third world countries vs the West: Most of the damage done to third-world countries was done by Europeans, but America did it's share of direct damage (Phillipines, for starters). Furthermore, America shares culture with the European imperialists, and basically "took the reigns" from the Europeans in many parts of the world (Vietnam, Iran), so its no surprize that we get lumped in with the Europeans and blamed for their crimes. Even if we suddenly realize what jerks we've been and clean-up our act, we can't expect other countries to trust us instantly.

nature of the international community

#2207 On Sun, 2006 08 13 17:46 adam ricketson said,

I'm gonig to ignore international institutions for a minute, and write what I think about the international community, from the ground up. Basically, this is simply how I think that humans interact with each other, on a global scale.

I think that humans tend to think of others in terms of communities, generally based on cultural similarities and a history of productive interactions with members of the community. Communities exist at different scales, and often have different bases--including neighborhoods, cities, professions, religious groups, nations, ancestry, "civilizations", and others. I focus on communities as concepts rather than organic entities because I want to emphasize that one person may strongly identify with a community that includes another person, while that second person may not identify strongly with any community including that first person.

People all over the world think in terms of these communities, and often they think of their community as being in conflict with another community.

I think that America is special in the sense that we generally don't have the long-standing sense of conflict that other communities have. We have some internal conflicts (race, for example), but those are relatively mild and seem to be on their way to being resolved. I get the impression that we are similar to many New World (i.e. mongrel) societies in that way. It also seems that Europe is on its way to resolving its conflicts, though the sense of conflict is probably more ingrained over there than it ever was in the New World.

This trend towards resolution of conflict is promising, but I'm afraid it isn't stable. A number of people seem to be developing a new sense of conflict: Muslim vs. West, or China vs. the USA, or something developing out of any of the other long-standing conflicts in the world. As our advancing economies bring the world closer together, we have the potential to create new conflicts, and also the potential to do immense damage to each other.

I think that the USA has the potential to promote global conflict resolution by being the "friend to all nations." We have an amazing ability to integrate with other cultures (allowing immigrants to influence our culture, even as they become "American"). We have a powerful economy, that will make others want to be our friends. I would like Americans (as a society) to pursue a path of aggressive friendship and self-improvement. Instead, I often fear that we are pursuing a path of reckless self-indulgence, followed by the aggressive confrontation that derives from a lack of self-confidence.

What do I think?

#2202 On Fri, 2006 08 11 13:45 b psycho said,

About the "international community"? That's easy: it doesn't exist. It's a myth that "the world" can agree on anything. I actually agree with dismissing global institutions because they have no real purpose except as puppets, shields behind which nations do whatever they were going to do anyway.

BTW: Robot, you might want to distinguish between our globalization (true free trade) and the garbage that passes for it now. A lot of the anger out there is actually because of globalization as is currently practiced, trade must have force REMOVED otherwise it serves the opposite purpose.

yes no

#2208 On Sun, 2006 08 13 20:18 mlinksva said,

I think the one key difference between how libertarian's approach grand strategy and how other's approach it is our subject-orientation. Traditional foreign policy schools (isolationist, neocon, (neo)realist or (neo)liberal) tend to think in terms of what is "good for America." Is it me or isn't that overly nationalistic and elitist?

Yes! (I don't say my political slant is 'anti-nationalist' for nothing.)

The essence of a libertarian approach to to grand strategy should think in terms of what is "good for Americans." What is the one thing that libertarians tend to say is good for Joe Everyman? Choice and the more options the better. A libertartian grand strategy should therefore work to maximize the amount of safe possibilities for Americans to make associations and go aborad. Clintonian strategy wanted to open markets for "America," whereas we want to open opportunities for "Americans."

Sounds good to me but frankly it is too vauge. A neocon could easily claim that the way to maximize safe possibilities for Amurricans is to force regime changes in every jurisdiction until all jurisdictions end up with regimes that like Amurricans.