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jstevens1 96 ( +1 | -1 )
Bad Draw Offer/Acceptance Dear all on this forum.

Has anybody offered/accepted a draw in a position where (having analysed the game later on with a buddy) you find that you would have had winning chances in it? I have had that experience in one of my games lately that I referred to in my earlier topic "Slump - how can I get out of it?".

If anybody else has had an experience of this kind please feel free to comment. This scenario can exist if you think your opponent has you under the cosh, you emerge out of it reasonably unscathed and then your opponent offers you a draw. You heave a sigh of relief and you accept his offer only to find out later that you were winning!! I felt this way in the very recent game concerned (I was the one to offer a draw). It was me as white v a player who has a very, very low rating - check his stats though and you will see why!!). At the end of the day though you can only learn by your mistakes and hope you do not repeat them.

All the best folks.

jstevens1 (Joanne)
spurtus 37 ( +1 | -1 )
This sounds familiar to me, I offer all sorts of draws, OTB and CC. I usually time the draw offer to put my opponent under the most psychological pressure. Opinions vary about the ethics of it, but for me its all part of the game.

I would say ~50% of my draw offers are swindles that are accepted. 40% when I get afraid of converting a win ( I usually regret this ) & the remaining 10% are unquestionable draws.

Spurtus.
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doctor_knight 123 ( +1 | -1 )
I had a blitz game recently where I was losing on the queenside but was able to force my rooks onto the seventh rank and force into a pertual check draw. Now that I think back to it, during the course of checking his king around, I was able to gobble up a lot of pawns and probably had a winning position where my rooks could have gotten behind his queenside pawns. Of course I'm not sure I would have had the time on the clock to pull the win off though; I'm a slow player :)

I guess thats not really a draw offer, but it's similar. I have played a game where an opponent couldn't figure out how to convert his advantage into a successful attack and he offered me a draw which I gratefully accepted. I usually like to see how a position plays out before I look at any kind of draw offer though. Though I'm usually happy to take a draw in a game I'm really worried about. Even if I later saw a win for me, I am happier definately getting some points than risking losing a bunch more because of a stupid blunder when the pressure is high. What I usually regret is losing and then seeing that I had a chance for a win if I had played differently (don't we all). I usually don't regret draws though.
chessnovice 56 ( +1 | -1 )
... I believe I'm still at a learning level, so I don't usually outright request a draw. Outside of this site, I don't think I've ever done draw by request. If I ever actually try for a draw, I tend to make it clear by going for a threefold repetition.

I used to be unintentionally rude with draw offers when I started to play tournaments. Someone offered me draw once, and I let out a laugh without thinking. Draw offers were pretty foreign to me at that point. I ultimately won the game, but I apologized about my reaction after the game.
wschmidt 48 ( +1 | -1 )
A few years back, I played in my first OTB tournament in many years. My first game was against a player about 300 rating points above me. I was nervous and on the defensive for most of the game. After a tactical slug-fest that wound down to even material, I extended my hand, offering a draw. After accepting, he pointed out that I had a forced mate in three on the board.

It's the story of my OTB life - failure to sustain close attention to details throughout the course of the game.
ironbutterfly 42 ( +1 | -1 )
draws, accepted and rejected I've won quite a few games after I've offered draws in what seemed to me sterile positions, my opponents refused the draws, then made mistakes and lost. On the other hand I accepted two draws in team games a few years back, and had teammates tell me that I had clear wins (they were rated 500-600 points higher than I), and when I looked at the positions again, I saw they were right....:((
ionadowman 127 ( +1 | -1 )
I seldom offer draws... ... and then only when I've absolutely sure there's no play in the position, or I've been morally sure my opponent would accept.
But I did make a very embarrassing draw offer once, against a very strong opponent (still active and well-known in this country). That evening , 30-several years ago, he wasn't in his best form, I played a Najdorf Sicilian, and sacced a piece for rather nebulous advantages. A ding-dong tactical battle ensued in which I recovered the piece, leaving me two pawns for one, bishops of opposite coloured squares, and a pair of rooks each. White gave a rook check which Black could have blocked with one of his own, leading to all the rooks coming off, and a safe draw.
Instead, I played a horrible blunder and then ... offered the draw. Two or three moves later I tossed it in. My only excuse (insofar as it is an excuse) was fatigue: it was late in the evening, and it had been a tough stuggle. Even if Paul had been out of form, I had to play at the top of my game to stay close.
The main disappointment there was that on no other occasion have I been so close to taking even a half-point from this guy (though I did beat him in an off-hand game, once...)
Cheers,
Ion